Coffee with OKRs in English · 5 min read
Two models of OKR implementation. Neither is better, each pays its price somewhere else
A note up front: we recorded this episode in English, with a guest from Stockholm. The conversation is about one decision that is made at the start of an implementation and that can't be cheaply reversed later. Does every team write its own goals, or do teams only form around the goals.
From the episode
A conversation in English about two models of goal structure
The whole recording is in English, because our guest is Niklas Olson, an OKR coach from Stockholm and the author of the first Swedish book on the method. The conversation goes from his first implementation in an organisation of a thousand people, through a comparison of the two models, to a thread that is sharper than the comparison itself: what to do with work that simply doesn't fit into quarterly goals. The part about the unresolvable conflict between a department's goal and the company's goal starts after the fortieth minute. from 00:42:21
The recording is being edited. Leave your address and you'll get the link when it's ready.The first model is team-based. Every department has its own goals, and the goal structure copies the company structure. Its advantage is real: it is easy to lay out, because it uses something that already exists, and nobody has to think about who works with whom. The price is paid in two places. The first shows in the numbers: our guest's first implementation, eight years ago, in an organisation of a thousand people, in which every team got its own goals, ended up with roughly two hundred goals and was described as a nightmare of alignment and administrative overhead. The second is quieter. When I have my department's goal and I see the company's goal, sooner or later I reach a moment when I would have to neglect mine to help someone else deliver the shared one. That conflict can't be resolved at my level, so it lands with the board.
The second model is cross-functional. There are fewer goals, and teams are formed around them, not the other way round. The decision from the previous paragraph then stays within the team, because the team is built to deliver that one goal. The price is concrete too: you have to drop the assumption that everyone must have an OKR, and in companies that assumption can be stronger than any argument. Neither of these models is better. The choice follows from the answer to the question of why we are implementing OKRs, and from the size and maturity of the organisation, with problems in the flow of information between departments starting somewhere around thirty or forty people. If you don't know which to choose, it is more sensible to run pilots of both and compare than to settle it in theory.
The second strand of the conversation is sharper than the comparison itself. OKRs don't describe all of a company's work, and pushing maintenance and support work into them is the source of goal bloat. Accounting, the helpdesk or support don't need a quarterly goal, but a health metric with a green line they must not fall below. A team that has no real influence on sales doesn't have to pretend to contribute to the strategy: it is better to start from the question of its own mission and build goals around quality, volume and productivity. That is an operational goal, and that is fine.
What you can't see when you run an implementation from the inside
Two remarks from this conversation stay with you for longer, because they concern things you won't find in textbooks. The first: the cost of alignment is not fixed. As long as the key results go according to plan, synchronisation is cheap and short. When things start to fall apart, meetings and coordination multiply sharply, so the implementation costs the most precisely when you can least afford it. The second: a board member should not run the implementation in teams they themselves depend on. That is a conflict of interest in which the role of the facilitator gets mixed up with the role of the boss, and none of the participants will say so openly.
There is also an admission in this conversation that is close to our own experience. An implementation run from the inside loses the whole structural layer: the implementation plan, a written-down way of working, owners and a measure of success for the process itself. Someone from outside adds it by reflex, because they have done it before, and that is one of the reasons they are worth their price. Our guest talks about this using his own implementations in which that layer was missing. On top of that comes something we in this industry spoil ourselves: the most important effects, namely focus, clarity and better questions at board meetings, often have no number, and the dogma that says without a number it isn't a goal makes you throw them out of the account of success.
Takeaways
Four things from this conversation
- 01
The team model copies the structure and pays in conflict
It is easy to lay out, because it uses the existing departments. But it generates a conflict between a department's goal and the company's goal that can't be resolved lower down, so it ends up on the board's desk.
- 02
Cross-functional requires dropping one assumption
Fewer goals, teams built around a goal, the decision stays within the team. The condition is accepting that not everyone in the company has their own OKR.
- 03
Maintenance gets a health metric, not a quarterly goal
Accounting, helpdesk, support: set a green line they must not fall below, instead of inventing a goal for them every quarter. That is where the bloat in the number of goals comes from.
- 04
The cost of alignment grows when things stop going to plan
When goals go as assumed, synchronisation is cheap. When there is a delay, the number of meetings grows sharply, so it is worth planning a buffer for it rather than counting on the average.
The whole topic in one place
OKR implementation in a nutshell
This conversation is about one decision: how to lay out the goal structure. The course of the implementation itself, that is, what it starts with, what follows what and when the first goal appears, we have described in the text that brings this whole thread together. If you would rather read about the whole path than watch an hour of conversation, start right there: it also has links to the other conversations about implementations.
Author

Lena Zhukova
founder; strategy workshops, quarterly sessions
Founder of OKR Poland. For twenty years she has worked with boards of companies from 30 to a few thousand people; she wrote dozens of strategies with them and helped implement them in more than 40 organisations.
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